Friday Argument - Should we ditch the monarchy and become a republic

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Derek Batty
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DONT THINK I SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT ,,,SO APOLAGIES TO ALL THE VICARS OUT THERE 

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Rofl Rofl

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Blatting in the lap of luxury Driving 

 

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As a veteran I look at vet blogs & chat for all three armed forces but especially now as the Army & RM looks to cut Harry loose by vets & serving members. As the honarary RM Major General his actions have not gone down too well. To say that he has lost respect puts it mildly.

The consistent quote is that as a former member of the military he put on the uniform to serve queen & country. Even now that should come first. The trouble is a lot of ordinary rankers did a lot to keep him alive during his tours in Nastystan more than they would have got or indeed I had. So even more repect lost.

Personally I cannot write here what I think about the whole shambles as I would get locked up!

Oh & NO the UK should not become a republic. The clue why is in some of the preceding words.  

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I haven't anything profound to add to this debate (I really don't care one way or the other, there are far more pressing constitutional issues that need dealing with imho), but I admit that I did find this tweet amusing.

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Aerobod, wow.

Your arrogance and sense of superiority in believing that those who have a different perspective from you are stupid and gullible and yet you are a ‘thinker’ who wants to understand the facts ‘compared to the general population’ is amazing and a wonder to behold.

You are obviously an intellectual Colossus.

Maybe you should be allowed two votes for every one allowed to the ‘gullible’ in future elections.

I doff my cap to you sir.

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Tony, you are a little scamp.

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I really don't care one way or the other, there are far more pressing constitutional issues that need dealing with imho

That's what interests me in Doug's original question. The reasons that I'd prefer us to become a liberal democratic republic (#32) include social factors such as decreasing class privilege (see wild bill's #39 and Tony's #41) but also major constitutional issues, including:

  1. Moving to an identifiable enforceable constitution.
  2. Reducing the powers of Ministers including the Prime Minister, and increasing scrutiny of their appointment and performance.
  3. Removing an unelected legislating chamber including its theocratic components.

What's your list, and would any of them be easier to achieve if we didn't have the monarchy?

Thanks

Jonathan

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This is essential reading for anyone with views about the current Harry/Meghan story.

Buzzfeed - Here Are 20 Headlines Comparing Meghan Markle To Kate Middleton That May Show Why She And Prince Harry Are Cutting Off Royal Reporters

Almost none of us and none of the people we interact with have any contact with the Royals apart from what we read in the papers and see on the TV. Our views can only come from what we have seen in the media or what others have seen in the media. Parts of the media are driving a story for their own benefit which probably does not in any way reflect reality.

A constitutional monarchy would be absolutely fine above a parliament which had PR in at least one of the chambers. The Lords being the obvious first choice to change.

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Good read Doug ,just looks like for some reason she is not liked as much as Kate ,the papers can turn things round to there way , she must be an easier target than Kate ,,,and we all no people can read things and get it all wrong by reading there own interpretation into things ,,right or wrong ,, Harry and Megan did seem to do a lot of moaning , at first ,suppose that put a few of them yes there in the public eye a lot but , they do lead a good life , if your down and out and skint seeing a couple flying out in a private jet for four week in a multimillion pound house , every thing supplied ,,,,your going to get pissed of I think 

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ps just for the record I don’t like her I think she has screwed up the monarchy ,,which I believe in ,,,sorry JK not as clever as you do ,so I don’t no  much about politics ,,ie.   How House of Lords ect work.  I do think a lot of it needs dumping ,and also the royal family  needs slimming down to weed out the hangers on ,

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Derek on this you are absolutely right

 if your down and out and skint seeing a couple flying out in a private jet for four week in a multimillion pound house , every thing supplied ,,,,your going to get pissed of I think

So what you need to ask yourself is why none of the papers who reported that holiday by Harry and Meghan thought it was worth reporting this.

The Mirror - Boris Johnson toasts New Year in message from £20k-a-week private island holiday

Not exactly consistent is it.

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