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Am I out of date on the walking route? What's the current plan?

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Surely, if the Airports are connected together with a high speed link, they can act as relief for each other, and even, dare I add, allow the third runway for Heathrow to be at Birmingham or East Midlands.

Birmingham International is in Phase One of HS2 and Manchester Airport in Phase Two. Beyond that how about:

"Expedition, a London-based engineering consultancy firm, have revealed their proposal for a new high-speed railway called HS4Air (High-Speed for Air).

The new railway would connect the existing HS1 with the planned HS2, linking both Gatwick and Heathrow airports. Also included would be a connection to the Great Western Main Line railway (GWML)."

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Jonathan, there is a marked walking route. Turn left fronm the concourse, left into Eversholt Street, right in to Phoenix Road and straight on into Brill Place. You meet Midland Road (just by the Francis Crick Institute)

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It’s difficult to have high speed rail with stops, hence they are minimised. The time taken to slow, stop and accelerate back up ‘high speed’ would reduce the value of the high speed line. One of the drivers for the project is increasing capacity by taking inter city express trains off the existing network, adding additional capacity for more local and freight trains.

This benefit has been barely mentioned by the London’s centric policy makers - it’s all about savings 20 minutes on a journey to London which is a very London View. Not everyone’s is interested in that - ‘so what’ they may say. But is was explained that HS2 allows more local trains, or medium speed trains to places not served by HS2 like Stoke on Trent or Macclesfield, you may get a different more positve response. 

Can you guess what project is paying my mortgage at the moment? ;-)

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This benefit has been barely mentioned by the London’s centric policy makers - it’s all about savings 20 minutes on a journey to London which is a very London View. Not everyone’s is interested in that - ‘so what’ they may say. But is was explained that HS2 allows more local trains, or medium speed trains to places not served by HS2 like Stoke on Trent or Macclesfield, you may get a different more positve response. 

Yes. 

In terms of both presentation and understanding it would also help if there were a national plan beyond HS2. What did you think of Greengauge21's?

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Monumental waste of money, particularly considering what else needs doing with roads, NHS, housing etc.

I really can't understand how it can be justified, someone should have the balls and pull the plug but I fear our present set of politicians will wimp out.

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Turn left fronm the concourse, left into Eversholt Street, right in to Phoenix Road and straight on into Brill Place. You meet Midland Road (just by the Francis Crick Institute)

I know it well, and it was a key part of my cunning plan to stay in London and walk everywhere... until my daughter moved.

But it's exposed to the weather, crosses traffic, and steps on and off pavements, and the air is illegally filthy, although probably a bit better than that on Euston Road.

So although it's only ? 750m those all make it unsuitable as an interchange between HS1 and HS2. There are proposals, including Arup's, for covered routes whether ground level, underground or elevated, and including travelators and monorails. But I don't think that there is a current plan. 

Jonathan

PS: Crossrail 2 is looking a bit more likely... and they're describing the interchange as "Euston St Pancras".

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I have never found covered walkways attractive, I'd prefer the pavement.

As for the air pollution, you are right but it is central London; until the whole city (or the length of the Euston Road) is addressed, it makes no difference if the route is open or closed, in the air or underground, the atmosphere will be very similar.

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Opening of Crossrail delayed by... 9 months!

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Shouldn't Crossrail be somewhere else? It's nothing to do with HS2

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