If you are texting you are not driving!

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I was in the back of a breakdown truck and the driver switched on a portable DVD player on his dash. It took me a mo to register the crass stupidity and told him to turn it off. And I reported him to his firm. Sforshaws suggestion of value based fines seems sensible. I think Switzerland already do similar for speeding. If my Fiat 500 can have a simple Bluetooth hands free system then I'm sure the expensive cars round here have the same. Perhaps it's because the interface to pair the phones is not simple due to the manufacturers or driver ignorance.... Frankly it's not a real defence.
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Quoting TobyCoulson: Want to stop handsfree mobile use whilst driving? Make it a mandatory one year ban if caught doing so. That would get the attention of most of those who do.Do you mean stop using handsfree equipment or do you mean holding the phone in your hand

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Quoting Nifty: Quoting TobyCoulson: Want to stop handsfree mobile use whilst driving? Make it a mandatory one year ban if caught doing so. That would get the attention of most of those who do.Do you mean stop using handsfree equipment or do you mean holding the phone in your hand My mistake. Holding the phone although using a handsfree one can be an unnecessary and potentially dangerous diversion.
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It doesn't matter what the fine or ban is, people will still do it. Why? Because most of the people who do it always get away with it. People rarely get stopped for this. Same with drink driving. Probably because there just aren't that many police around. My stepmum was caught driving whilst on her mobile - she said I'm terribly sorry, officer, I don't normally do it. He said OK! and let her off.
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Quoting BenF: It doesn't matter what the fine or ban is, people will still do it. Why? Because most of the people who do it always get away with it. People rarely get stopped for this. Same with drink driving. Probably because there just aren't that many police around. My stepmum was caught driving whilst on her mobile - she said I'm terribly sorry, officer, I don't normally do it. He said OK! and let her off. I think you'll find that there are a lot less people who drink/drive these days than there used to be and mostly that has to do with the penalties involved. Edited by - TobyCoulson on 5 Apr 2014 15:49:56
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The best thing to do is not get angry just get even. If you have a passenger & a smart phone get into a position where the passenger can take a reasonable picture of the numpty on the phone & take down the car reg, colour, make, model, time & location. Present said picture to the local Police as part of a complaint. Although the evidence is not admissable in court it allows the Police to send out a suitable warning letter. I know that does not sound effective but it does come as a surprise to the perp when the letter drops on the mat. 'Big Brother watching' as they cannot work out how they got fingered. And....this warning goes against the driver WHEN they get caught. I have done this several times. Dont know if it works but I do get a certain sense of satisfaction from it.
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On distractionQuote:Second, drivers should also be aware that whether a cell phone is hands-on or hands-free makes no difference in terms of mental distraction. According to the research, the mental activity of conversation, whether in person or over the phone, is what takes one's mind off the road. What happens in the head happens regardless of what happens with the hands. Third, drivers tempted to talk on the mobile might ask themselves if they would drive drunk. If not, they should put down the phone.Jonathan
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I got a taxi home once from central London. The driver had a tv on the dash and was watching Eastenders whilst eating fish & chips from chip paper on her lap. She even threw the chip paper out of the window at speed aiming for a bin but missed. It was so alarming it was funny!
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In Bristol recently the chap in the car next to me had his iPhone in a windscreen cradle and was chatting to his girlfriend on Facetime. She was quite a distraction, I nearly crashed 3 times
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Quoting Jonathan Kay: On distractionQuote:Second, drivers should also be aware that whether a cell phone is hands-on or hands-free makes no difference in terms of mental distraction. According to the research, the mental activity of conversation, whether in person or over the phone, is what takes one's mind off the road. What happens in the head happens regardless of what happens with the hands. Third, drivers tempted to talk on the mobile might ask themselves if they would drive drunk. If not, they should put down the phone.Jonathan Jonathan, we are all aware that research, as statistics, can be manipulative depending upon how presented. There are both mental and physical aspects of using a mobile phone - if not using a hands-free kit there is an increased risk due to the physical activity and associated mental process involved, separate to actually having a conversation. This relates to the woman who was fined for eating an apple whilst driving. Quoting BenF: It doesn't matter what the fine or ban is, people will still do it. Why? Because most of the people who do it always get away with it. Hence my suggestion that the level of the fine should be related to the value of the vehicle being driven ... a hands free install suddenly becomes good value, thereby over time reducing the incidence of non-hands free mobile use. Stu.

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