If you are texting you are not driving!

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Quoting sforshaw:  Quoting BenF: It doesn't matter what the fine or ban is, people will still do it. Why? Because most of the people who do it always get away with it. Hence my suggestion that the level of the fine should be related to the value of the vehicle being driven ... a hands free install suddenly becomes good value, thereby over time reducing the incidence of non-hands free mobile use. Stu. I think you'll find monetary penalisation less of a deterrent than a year's ban from driving as was my suggestion. Both would certainly get the attention of those who persist in using hand held mobiles though.
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Driving and posting on blatchat can also be an issue ..... Really must stop .
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Quoting TobyCoulson: Quoting sforshaw:  Quoting BenF: It doesn't matter what the fine or ban is, people will still do it. Why? Because most of the people who do it always get away with it. Hence my suggestion that the level of the fine should be related to the value of the vehicle being driven ... a hands free install suddenly becomes good value, thereby over time reducing the incidence of non-hands free mobile use. Stu. I think you'll find monetary penalisation less of a deterrent than a year's ban from driving as was my suggestion. Both would certainly get the attention of those who persist in using hand held mobiles though. So you're somehow placing the use of a phone waaaay above a speeding offence Currently it's 3 points for each, it's unlikely that scenario is going to change. Stu.

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Your are forgetting the overriding rule, Rules broken by others are far more serious than those you break yourself
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The whole mobile phone things scares me - over here on the IoW I can drive to work and only see 3 or 4 cars on the way in so you don't tend to see this kind of thing go on. I also don't own a mobile phone and so I think I notice more phone abuse for this reason as well. Had to drive to High Wycombe and back the other day for one of my almost singular annual mainland journeys using combination of A road, dual carriageway and motorway and it was frankly bloody scary. Driving through West Wycombe in the traffic and somewhere near Reading in the traffic the number of people on the phone, particularly women, just goes to prove why there are some many minor fender benders and more serious accidents - people are just not concentrating on what they should be. The worse offender was the transit driver on the m4 on the inside lane doing 65/70 mph wandering to the middle as he holding the phone with his left hand and writing on a pad attached to a clipboard on his steering wheel. Edited by - Ziplobb on 7 Apr 2014 09:24:21
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Quoting sforshaw:  So you're somehow placing the use of a phone waaaay above a speeding offence Currently it's 3 points for each, it's unlikely that scenario is going to change. Stu. Yes I am as using a hand held mobile phone is far more dangerous than exceeding the speed limit.
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Quote:monetary penalisationor "financial penalty" as we say in English

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Quoting Nifty: Quote:monetary penalisationor "financial penalty" as we say in English I thought it needed modernising along with most other plain English is these days
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You mean 'fine'.
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Quoting wag: You mean 'fine'. Yup when is a fine fine?