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Golf Juliet Tango
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Lords and Ladies

As ever I despair of this corupt government.

We have a housing minister who approves a huge housing development hours before new rules insist that greater provsion is made for the communities around them and (by pure coincidence) his party receives a substantial donation.

We have a SPAD who pays no heed to the rules he wrote and gives contracts out without competitive tendering.

Now a Brexiteer who is/was also a member of the "Revolutionary Communist Party", who defended the bombing of the Grand Hotel, Brighton and says that child pornography should not be removed from the internet is appiinted to the House of Lords.

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I guess you're talking about Claire Fox.  My brother knows her quite well - I've met her a couple of times but only for a chat in the pub.

I guess the thing to say is that she's someone who is at least consistent and applies her positions to everything without looking to curry favour.

The IRA stiff is interesting - her view (I think) is that Irish Catholics were fighting a legitimate war of indepndence against the British state.  I've not spoken to her about this directly, but from what she's written I think her view is that targeting the political leadership of an enemy state is legitimate (as we might have targeted Sadam Hussein or Bashar al Assad recently).  I doubt that she supports the attacks on civilians such as the manchesher bombing or Eniskillen.  She certainly supports the peace process and regards the current 'dissident' republicans as traitors.

On the child abuse images stuff - I think if you listen to what she says, she was talking about images that have been generated (cartoons etc) rather than actual images of child abuse.  She's certainly a free speech fundamentalist and doesn't want to give the state the power to ban any speech - her view is that the best way of countering views we find abhorrent is to challenge directly rather than censor; giving the state the power to sensor one type of speech just means that they will expand their power over time to ban lots of different types of speech.  Again, this didn't figure in a pub chat, but I have read what's she's written on this and listened to interviews.

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The IRA stiff is interesting - her view (I think) is that Irish Catholics were fighting a legitimate war of indepndence against the British state.  I've not spoken to her about this directly, but from what she's written I think her view is that targeting the political leadership of an enemy state is legitimate

I assume she considers that as a member of the opposition in the political establishment that the acts of terrorism aimed to disrupt, that she would herself have been a fair target for assassination.

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The IRA stiff is interesting - her view (I think) is that Irish Catholics were fighting a legitimate war of indepndence against the British state.  I've not spoken to her about this directly, but from what she's written I think her view is that targeting the political leadership of an enemy state is legitimate

A war fought by a nation or factions within a nation can only be legitimate if officially made so by the incumbent government of that nation. This was never the case for the IRA, they have never been officially supported by any Irish government therefore they are a terrorist organisation exercising terrorist activity. End of. For her to suggest otherwise is just a muddling of the facts.

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I think she is excusing the inexcuable. I deplore all the acts of wanton violence that took place in Northern Ireland or elsewhere because of the violence there. None of the perpetrators have any moral excuse for what they chose to do.

Clothing acts of violence with a political excuse doesn't hide the fact that it is an illegal act in both the UK and the Republic of Ireland.

Most of the violence was not against political elites but was inflicted on the population as a whole. This is the very definition of terrorism; the violence was designed to create fear or terror.

This appointment shows the morals of this government.

Stephen

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See also:- my comments upon the murder of Jo Cox MP. Violent attacks on elected politicians are attacks upon democracy itself.

Stephen

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Further about Claire Fox.

After the 1993 Warrington bombing, which killed Tim Parry and Johnathan Ball, the Revolutionary Communist Party’s official newsletter stated that they defended 'the right of the Irish people to take whatever measures necessary in their struggle for freedom'. She defended the attack in the days after, and she has never publicly apologised.

Copied from the Warrington Guardian.

Footnote:- a 3 and a 12 year old were killed in this incident, hardly members of the political elite.

Stephen

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Imagine the fuss if this person had been a member of the Labour party...

 

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She's been appointed to make the others look good?

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Don't no much about this but if all what is on here about her is right ,,,the bitch should be shot 

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I know what you mean Derek, but however abhorrent her views, she hasn't killed or molested anyone herself. I do believe people should be able to express views the majority disagree with. Sometimes the minority view will be proved by posterity to be correct, for example the abolition of slavery. Whether an IRA sympathiser should be allowed to sit in the Lords, is a completely different matter. I completely agree with Stephen on that. Duncan