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I'm sure this will be an interesting discussion!

Over the last few days of isolation, I decided to re-watch Breaking Bad.  In one of the episodes, Jessie and Jane get his £480k and talk about it being freedom and being able to do loads of different things.

In the current climate, it's really been an interesting realisation for me. No matter how much money you have, if there is an illness with no cure and you cannot leave the house, money is completely irrelevant and it goes back to "just being happy" and content with what you have and the people around you. 
 

Ok, you would be isolated in a bigger house with more wine and possibly better quality food.  You could not go out, spend your money, show off, pay for treatment (other then buying inflated tests to see if you have the virus). It puts things into perspective and makes you realise the saying of "no point being the richest man in the graveyard" is actually pretty true. My Nan used to live by the belief that as long as you had enough money for a cream cake, you were ok.  I believed this to mean, keep some money put aside for a rainy day.  I've always lived by this and never lived outside my means. 

Has anyone else had any realisations or their personal value of money changed? I'm sure loads of you have been hit with investments as I have read in other posts.  Will you live your life differently once this has blown over? 

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I refer you to Mr Micawber.

You are absolutely right that, if you have chosen to afford a Seven, you are not pressed for money and that time with those you love is, surely, more important than a fat bank account. Experiencing the joys of life, be it gardening, spannering, walking, the sunshine, the birdsong, music, food & wine do not have to be expensive.

But then, I have always believed this. There is such a thing as enough. I want enough to get by with little ambition beyond that.

Stephen

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Breaking Bad.....I just love the scene when Walt's wife takes him to the lock up and shows him the stash of money LOL

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Saltyhair81, as you're re-watching Breaking Bad, I don't need to tell you what happens to Jane! Scratchchin  Carpe Diem!

Apart from mortgages and interest-free offers, I have never borrowed money.  That was just the way I was brought up.

The Speed Limiter and I have had pretty-decent careers (well, she has!) and we have avoided the expensive things in life (married nearly 31 years and no kids) so have more than enough for what we need and near enough for what we want.  When she retires (plan is this year) we'll manage (not necessarily as well as when I did the sums in January but we'll be OK assuming our pension pots and investments come back up eventually).

Excluding cars (as Stephen said, if you've a 7... and/or a 21 in his case Byebye , any claim of being short of money is disingenuous) and housing (here in west London that can be an issue but we're down to a trivial amount owed on a stupidly-expensive house, but probably small compared to most on here), even a pretty hedonistic lifestyle needn't cost much!  It's the holidays that cost us!

Back to your original query; no, my attitude hasn't changed but has most definitely been reinforced!  As you suggested, there're no pockets in shrouds!

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As someone once told me, "you come into this world with nothing, if you leave with an overdraft you're quids in!"

Certainly when you can't spend any it puts a different onus on how much disposable income you actually need.

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Sometimes when you go to a car show and see and beautiful super car and walk over and chat to the owner they are more often than not miserable and have no real interest in cars but more interested in it's value and how few miles it has done.  Conversely you see a group of enthusiasts with some run of the mill machinery and they are happy, know the ins and outs of their cars and are a happy bunch.  Money can make you happy but getting it usually comes at a price, arrogance seems to be one of them for some people although certainly not everyone.  

I think most of us in the Club are in a privileged position of having enough money to indulge in a frivolous hobby and yet we appreciate what we have as a 7 is not a flashy car but we have all found the secret of owning a car that trumps most other cars in its involvement and brings us a lot of joy.  

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how few miles it has done

So right!  I'm proud of doing lots of miles, I wish I had done more!

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I've never understood the "It's only done 'x' miles" thing - so what fun, value have you got out of it?

100,000 miles or so and counting in a 7.

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I have a number of high net worth clients in the 8,9 and 10 figure sums. All of them fund various foundations and one in particular is creating a multi-million pound charitable empire for his offspring. I regard him as being a driven and motivated man determined to do some good with the money he has amassed. He said to me, if I give away a billion what happens? Does my burger taste worse, does it take me longer to get home from the office? The conclusion is that it makes no difference, he does however seek to help those much less fortunate than himself. The others I cannot say I would describe as happy, the McCallan 50 year old at £1200 a shot did not appear to confer any joy on this one individual and he seemed permanently morose for all his wealth. There is a real happiness to be found in simple things, good food, a good blat, a beer or two in good company and satisfaction in doing things properly. If you can do that and earn enough money to be secure financially I think happiness is within your grasp. This isolation is providing some quality reflection time. Sadly miles away from my 7!!

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I whole heartedly agree with those sentiments. I am in the fortunate position of having a final salary pension which is sufficient to fund my modest lifestyle. I accept that owning a 7 appears at odds with that concept, but I have always adopted the 'Micawber' philosophy. We live in very different times than when Dickens wrote David Copperfield, where debt seems more a way of life. I hope that when we emerge from this crisis those people don't suffer too much financially. S