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Pickup and weather concerns

Hey All,

I was wondering about posting this,  but having read Anthony's thread on staying alive, I'm now, even more nervous.  So would appreciate your advice.... or at least thoughts.
 

Anyone that reads my blog is probably aware I've traded my unused Exige for a new 620R.  I need to collect it from Oakmere very soon.  As a Manx resident that means travelling back up the M6 to Heysham from Cheshire.  This time of year with the weather conditions as they are and more extreme, plus the ZZR tyres, being unused to the power, and concerns over other drives as per the thread.  I have to say I'm very nervous about it.   Sure I want the pick up experience at Oakmere, content for my blog and to check the car before accepting.  I do have the option to have them deliver to the ferry terminal... but that just doesn't seem the same.

Am I overreacting?  I would like to get people's thoughts.   The ferry company is pretty costly and not that flexible so the day will be the day, regardless of weather !

thanks, appreciate the input.

 

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As you have experience of the Exige, I think you will be fine but just be gentle with the right foot.

Dress appropriately, gloves, hat, scarf, waterproof jacket.

If it was me, I would NOT put a hood on. The view forward with a hood is restricted and the view nehind is worse. Wait until you are really experienced with the car before using the hood (bitter personal experience)

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Hi Mark

I would be concerned about using ZZR tyres in the wet, from my experience they will not clear enough water to keep good contact with the road added to the fact they will not get hot enough to be effective.If it is dry I think it would be OK just bear in mind the tyres will not get up to their optimum operating temperature. Is it not possible to borrow a set of ZZS ,s ?

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You're not overreacting, you're just being thoughtful about the risks. Will you have a passenger? 

The ferry company is pretty costly and not that flexible so the day will be the day, regardless of weather !

That sounds like the wrong priorities. Can you pay more for extra flexibility? If at any point you don't feel safe then stop, regardless of tickets, bookings, cost, delays etc. (You can always buy another ticket, in contrast to brains.)

And if not and that has to be the day then I'd get them to deliver it.

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Have a good play with the clutch and throttle actions and effects somewhere nice and safe before you're in traffic.

And with the mirrors and blind spots.

Lights on.

And stop after a few minutes and readjust mirrors and belt. And breathe. And check the weather forecast again.

If it's wet be prepared to pull off and wait. And think in advance about when the rear high intensity lights are going on.

Have a safe journey, and please tell us all about it.

Jonathan

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Brings back memories of me collecting my repaired seven from Dartford in a deluge!

Only a year into seven ownership, I hadnt discovered the intermittent wipe function and thought the wipers had failed. Pulled onto hard shoulder ignition off and on again and all working - just left them on!

Throttle control is key in wet conditions and smooth inputs!

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Hi mark no what  you mean about ferry cost,, we just priced me Kay and car  just before Xmas ,,£395.00.    For three and a half hours ,,,,talking to god on that big white telephone ,

one thought poss bit costly take a trailer,, and some one with you ,if weather is crap when you pick seven up pop on trailer,,if good drive seven back , mate drives tailor ,if your stuck for a trailer Lee poss will no of one ,,think though you have driven enough to keep it on the road ,,,the trouble is road works and flooding roads ,,,twice across I have hit ,flooded roads.  , lucky going slow as weather was horrendous   Both times aquaplaned quite a long way which was frightening ,,no steering whatsoever  ,,just worth thinking about ,,,,,,and as a good old mate of mine ,who lives in Aussie do doesn’t no what rain is ,,mind you think he does now after our trip to Skye ,,,, he says I drive like an old fart which I am and do ,,am a bit handicapped as Kay is usually in the seven with me ,

would not go for seven being delivered to boat ,don’t think will be the same as going to oakmere   ,

good luck enjoy 

derek

 

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Hi Mark, It is highly likely to be wet and cold so I think I would see if Oakmere would swap the wheels or tyres for ZZS. No doubt you will be itching to get out on track the early part of next year so they might be a better choice anyway for getting used to the car in potentially wet conditions, then get a set of ZZR for the summer if you wish.
Personally, I would want to collect from the showroom and drive it home myself but as Jonathan said I would be prepared to abort the trip in preference to an unsafe, unenjoyable experience if the weather was very bad.

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Just drive steady - like we used to have to do in any car before electronic aids in all directions.

And I would use the hood if needed - get the mirrors adjusted, carry a demister pad, don't use the heater, unzip the window and fold in in so it's half-open for ventilation - lets very little rain in.  The hood stops rain, spray, wind blowing onto spectacles, into your eyes etc, engine heat keeps you comfortable.  I probably use the car more often with the hood on than not in UK weather.  

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Lots of great support as per normal, so thanks all, apologies if I don't respond to all.  

A number of you have mentioned the tyres and maybe swapping out for the ZZS.  I don't specifically want to do that at this point as I've got another car thing on the go.

I'll explain.  When I decided to swap for the 620R, I decided I would do more track days in the UK and more than just an annual trip to Oulton.  I'd already thought the ZZR might not be great in the wet on track.  As StevehS3 knows, I'm no hero in slippy conditions Whistle  Going to a track day, especially from the IOM, and then having a wet day, on the wrong tyres just turns into an annoying expense.  So, I've decided to change our daily driver so that I can load up with a spare set of wheels fitted with an appropriate wet tyre, plus tools.  

Some of you in the passed have comment on my Integra DC5.  Yes I have as much of an interest in rare JDM cars as I do Lotus/Caterham.  I've been able to line up a swap with the import specialist that supplied my DC5, my DC5 + small sum for a Forrester Sti.  The Forrester will have ample space for everything I need to take.  Long story short, I'd like to keep the ZZR tyres, so I have the option to fit as required for up coming track days.  When I get the car home, I'll probably run her in weather permitting on my ZZS from the 420R and then swap back too.

As I see it, I've got a couple options, including an offer of support from a fellow club member.  

As I think it through I'm starting to dismiss the 'experience' element of it. Sure its a disappointment, but to do the journey in a day won't leave anytime for to savor the process.  So it really comes down to whether I should accept the vehicle away from the showroom?  Logic tells me that I shouldn't, for all the obvious reasons.  That said I've got the upmost confidence in Oakmere, their service has always been of the highest quality.  Also I kinda know what the Caterham is now from my 420, I understand the hand built nature of the product a little better.  

I guess its a question of weighing up what could go wrong accepting/rejecting in a ferry terminal vs driving or trailoring with the support of a club member.

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With regards driving it, I guess my biggest fear is weather conditions which are simply beyond the capability of the tyre regardless of how you drive.  Standing water on the M6, heavy spray, so its hard to see the car, you get the idea.  

Caterham 420R S3 Lotus Toxic Green,  awaiting Caterham 620R delivery. Blog: https://www.caterham7diaries.com