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sorry but its utterly useless.......

I like many others no doubt use search options on many sites, if they don't work I dont return to the site,

try searching    tillet seat     on this site and see what it returns......

first page not one of the returns contains either tillet or seat.....

 

 

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Well that made a difference!! My original search was for Apollo pipe connections, got everything else but nothing re the subject, tried then using "Apollo pipe connections" and you can guess the result. Having read the above I have now tried "Apollo and pipe connections" Unfortunately nothing at all. Luckily Alistair saw my post in Tech Talk earlier and has succinctly answered my question but surely Search should operate better than this experience?
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A search engine like google cost billions of dollars and years to develop. The search engine in Drupal is a simple boolean search with a few tweaks so it's not going to be that great unless you take 5 minutes to understand boolean operators - the most useful being AND. Oh and by the way, before some smartarse says it was better on the old site - it wasn't - you had to use boolean operators on that as well - so take those rose tinted glasses off.

The regular posters on this thread all know the solution because I've responded to them every time this is raised so saying "No response" is disingenuous. 

If you learn how to use AND and to search for a phrase by using quotes then the search is fairly decent and can actually be more effective than using google. However there is a google search for the site in pilot - I just haven't got round to making it easily found. It's here if you want to try it: https://www.lotus7.club/google-search. You get some sponsored stuff first because we aren't paying for it. You don't get the filters of the answers or the sorting that is available with the site search so it can be harder to find what you are looking for.

 

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Thanks, Shaun.

Can anyone explain why https://www.lotus7.club/google-search returns advertisements at the top and the method in my Signature doesn't?

Jonathan

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So, how do the filtera work? I don't think anyone has asked for a Google-like search but simply for something that's simple to use. Having to add AND between the search words is complicaring things and makes it a lot lees straight forward. Frankly I'm fed up with the comment that the Google search costs a fortune. We /have/ spent a dortune already and, to me, the forum is far from worth the figures I,ve heard mentioned.
tbirds search:

Blatchat Google Search

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Jonathan - setting up an embedded Google search is done through the Google search console requiring a Google account. If you want ad-free you have to pay (about £5 per 1000 searches). Your link takes you to Googles' web site which doesn't require an account or payment.

RJ - we'll just have to disagree on that. We have spent a fair amount for what we have and every change costs money. Some are easy (therefore cheap) and some are difficult (and therefore expensive). We try to stick with standard Drupal where possible to keep development costs down and also to keep future maintenance costs down. Every bespoke change needs to be checked every time a security patch or Drupal upgrade is applied - the more bespoke code there is the more it costs every time. We did request that the search defaulted to AND rather than OR but we were told that it wasn't a simple change so we abandoned it.

There are filters in the site search results that allow you to narrow down the content type e.g. blog, guide, forum post. you can filter by author and you can filter by forum (although I have noticed the forum filter is less useful since the consolidation). You can sort by date, "relevancy" or title. Relevancy is supposed to be a bit more "google-like" but it's not great hence we now default to date (most recent first).

The version of Drupal we are on is coming to end of life and we expect to upgrade to a newer release in the not too distant future. We hope that will address some of the issues (such as Android support) but don't expect a radical change to features.

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"..and the shambles which masquerades as Marketplace.."

Really?  I managed to put two items on for sale last week, one using a desktop PC and the other from a phone, neither of which were the least bit difficult.  I also searched for previous similar ads without a problem.  All of which was a damn sight easier and quicker than using FleaBay!

The only issue I have is that the system should have warned me that I was selling the items too cheaply, judging by the number of responses I had!  Thumb Up

Oh, and thanks Shaun for entertaining us at Curborough yesterday, some great driving in a series looking Seven!  Driving 

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... setting up an embedded Google search is done through the Google search console requiring a Google account. If you want ad-free you have to pay (about £5 per 1000 searches). Your link takes you to Googles' web site which doesn't require an account or payment.

Thanks, Shaun.

Would being taken to an external page be a problem if the functionality was that preferred by the Members?

(I wouldn't mind a page which had all of the search options so I suppose that I'm discussing the default method that appears on ? all pages on the site.)

Jonathan

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Jonathan - It's always good practice to keep the user on the site so embedded is better. We are OK with the cost of having the search ad-free but will have to keep it members only to avoid the risk of spending a lot on search.

Hi Roy - glad I was entertaining because I certainly wasn't quick (well at least not by class standards). I'll post some in-car video this evening so you see what it was like from behind the wheel. I think I need to be a little less aggressive judging by the amount of time the car was traveling sideways!

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Thanks

Jonathan