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"Smart" motorways

For the second time in a week I have found myself on the M25 when an accident has happened. With no hard shoulder I witnessed both fire engines and ambulances trying to force their way through miles of stationary traffic.

I'm afraid that I can only state that the idiot who thought it would be OK to get rid of the hard shoulder is a moron. Someone will die because of this.

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Could not agree more.

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Agreed. A failed experiment.

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But the lessons haven't been learnt yet - M27 in Hampshire currently being converted into a so-called smart motorway.

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Just been doing a little bit of research and I find that in medical terms, an idiot is significantly less intelligent than a moron, although these are now possibly outdated terms. I will therefore modify my statement to say that, " I'm afraid that I can only state that the moron who thought it would be OK to get rid of the hard shoulder is really an idiot."

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Work on new dumb, 'smart' M ways is still starting up obviously to fulfill contracts taken out some time ago. About two years ago the Parliamentary Select Committee for Transport ruled that 'smart' M ways were dangerous due to the fact that there was no where to go in emergency so I thought that all work presently occurring would be allowed to be completed & any further contracts for work canceled.    

Obviously nobody listened to them & no one in authority had the foresight & the b*lls to cancel contracts not started. What a waist of £££ !     Banghead

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I wonder when they'll start converting them back to ordinary motorways?

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Just one question: Why does this work in Germany? They know how to give way for emergency vehicles when the motorway is blocked.
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They should work, but for the ignorance of people using them - how many times when the gantry signage show lanes merging/closing or worse still a red X closing lanes completely you still get some w****r ignoring the instruction and not moving over until he's on top of the problem to save himself a few minutes.

Generally lane discipline is appalling in this country, as is spacial and speed differential awareness and the ability of  looking further forward than the back end of the car in front (which generally is too close).

Better driver training both at initial driving test stage (It's crazy how motorway driving isn't a serious part of the test), and a compulsory 1/2 day classroom refresher course on the 10 year renewal of your license (akin to the speed awareness courses but without the sarcasm) before your license is renewed, Could also always bring back Reginald Molehusband on the TV

 

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I should point out that in neither case I witnessed were any gantries showing a red X, so that immediately says that the system doesn't work. In any case, a red X merely indicates that the relevant lane is shut ahead without giving a reason. What they really need is something like a fire engine symbol to tell people to move over immediately, although that in itself is a bit of a joke if the road is as busy as the M25 can get.