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Stephen

Democratic dissent is not disloyalty, it is a positive civic duty

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Now that's well & truly scary . ^^^^^

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Stephen

Democratic dissent is not disloyalty, it is a positive civic duty

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There's a third choice Golf,  the world.

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 Yikes 

Be afraid, be very afraid.

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(Actually, I'm pretty relaxed, he has less than 20% chance of being elected, which I think is generous; I've heard more sense from Ronald MacDonald).

Stephen

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I hope you are correct about Trump. Yet one is well advised to not under estimate how upset the citizens are with our politicians.

But remember the circumstances of a certain treaty after WWI that in effect set up the situation that allowed a bad person to come to power that otherwise would never have had the chance. It was the frustration of the German people because of the ruined economy from that rather vengeful treaty.

While our situation is certainly different. The effect however is the same. Our politicians have quite masterfully pushed the shared blame of both political parties ineptitude and have blamed the other side as being 100% responsible and far to many citizens have believed them. Which has created a rather very large division amongst the American people. A fair amount of people are finally waking up to this fact and have lost all faith in the ability of any career politician to actually lead in accordance with the Constitution and are quite willing to 'take a chance' on an outsider.

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Yes yes this is all very well, but what we want to know is, is it a rug?

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Did we see this all before with Ross Perot? (who led the polls in '92, and didn't like gun controls either)
 

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HMG response to the petition, in full:

"For good reasons the Government does not routinely comment on individual immigration and exclusion decisions.

The Home Secretary may exclude a non-European Economic Area national from the UK if she considers their presence in the UK to be non-conducive to the public good. 

The Home Secretary has said that coming to the UK is a privilege and not a right and she will continue to use the powers available to prevent from entering the UK those who seek to harm our society and who do not share our basic values. 

Exclusion powers are very serious and are not used lightly. The Home Secretary will use these powers when justified and based on all available evidence. 

The Prime Minister has made clear that he completely disagrees with Donald Trump’s remarks. The Home Secretary has said that Donald Trump’s remarks in relation to Muslims are divisive, unhelpful and wrong. 

The Government recognises the strength of feeling against the remarks and will continue to speak out against comments which have the potential to divide our communities, regardless of who makes them. We reject any attempts to create division and marginalisation amongst those we endeavour to protect."

Understatement is alive and well. See also hint and veiled threat, but unfortunately it's still a long way short of irony.

:-)

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Ian B,

Perhaps a rug with steel wire for hair. As I've never seen it out of sorts in the least.