Upgrade thoughts 420 to 620

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Upgrade thoughts 420 to 620

OK, so I've thought long and hard about posting this, not sure if it's a good idea.  But here goes.  So I'm looking for some genuine advice or recommendations, and I guess it equates to a comparison of the 420 R vs 620 R.

As many of you will know my feelings about Caterham have been mixed.   That said, having done around 3500 miles in my 420 this year I've had a hoot.  Driving it has been above all else fun.  More fun than any car I've owned.  If you compare this to my Exige, bought 2014, only done 6k miles!

At the end of the month I'm over to the UK to service the Exige and take part in a Lotus on Track trackday at Oulton Park.   I have to say I wish I was using the 7.  I'm also at the point of saying to hell with the service, just take the 7.  Plus whenever the sun is out I'm grabbing the keys to the 7!  I think you get the idea.

So I'm toying with the idea of swapping both my 420R and Exige for an upgrade to a 620R.   Is this a dumb idea?  Should I just sell the Exige and keep the cash, maybe buy a sequential box for the 420R which I do fancy etc.

I guess it comes down to just how much more fun a 620 is over my 420, or are there better options for my 420.   Please consider access to specialists, when commenting.

There are some other factors too, the Exige costs around 1100GBP per year for tax and insurance.  Plus around 500 for a ferry boat and servicing at Oakmere.  Tyres are horrific! I've driven it 3 times this year, so it's not exactly fantastic value at present.

I'm not trolling here, I know a swap will cost me, but if I don't do something I suspect the Exige will just sit there.  In another year, I'll be saying it's been driven 6 times in 2 years!

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Sell the Exige, keep the cash and spend it on travel to track days Smile 

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620R flog the rest. Although when I built my dream 7 the other day it was the S with a load of R options. Play with the configurator, it's fun anyway :-)  oh yes dunno if I can have it as S3 and not SV.

trouble is I don't like the exhaust on my side... and I like my R500K.. 

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Firstly I think there is no wrong or right answer to your post.   The fact you "grab the 7 keys" defines how I would act.   I had an S1 Exige before I purchased my first 7, and I don't regret the sale all those years ago.    

As for 420 vs 620, that's more complicated.   Notice I haven't put the R in there because I would not rule out the 620S.   I don't have first hand experience of owning a 620, I have only had passenger rides.   What I can say is for me, where I live, and for what I use my 7 for, I can't see the point in more power than a 420.    Actually I can't see the point in more power than the 360, but I prefer the characteristics of a cam upgrade over a standard road car engine in a 7.    I just don't live where I need the power of the 420.  I actually drove my Sigma 150 faster on track, mainly because I was more used to it, and group blats have all power levels so the power of the 420 isn't needed there either.    However where you live there is a totally different attitude to speed limits, so maybe you need more from your 7.

The other factor may be the need to own the "top spec", the M, the RS the AMG.   Don't get me wrong that would be a reason why I would own a 620.   However logically for me my next step is to get a confident and comfortable in my 420 on tack as I was with my Sigma car.   When I feel I am driving the wheels off it, then may be, but at the moment a 420 is more car than I can drive.    

The one 420 upgrade I would consider is the roller barrel setup, with the carbon air box.  

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Sell the Exige, buy a 620.....and the lovely S1 Silver Elise at Sevens and Classics.

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grr... first world problems...

I don't tend to drive flat out on the roads, even though legally it is more tolerable here.   It's just too dangerous on a country road.  The fun for me tends to be in 2nd or 3rd, but mostly 2nd, 20mph to 50mph is where most of the fun is, plus pulling away from a quiet junction!  Traction on the 420 seems nicely managable, even if you do want to let it slip a little.

Does the 620 destroy a 420 on track, or is it a pretty level playing field unless you're the Stig, which I'm not.

 

Still looking to upgrade, 420R and Exige are still for sale, pls PM me

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For me it's about the overtake, from say 10 to 50mph, every fraction of a second I can have off that is "yes please", usually post hairpin. 

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My advice would be to match the specification of the car to the type and range of driving you expect to do.

Previously we've owned a K Series Superlight R500 bl**dy awesome but too hard core for touring. A CSR260 which was brilliant for every type of Caterham driving activity and now a 620S and believe me the 620 is in a different league than what I've owned previously. I'm over 6ft tall so the S3 chassis is always a bit of a squeeze and we partake in tours, track days and general blatting. The 620S  with a SV chassis ticks all the boxes for us as it has good manners at slow speeds in traffic but is a monster when you want it to be. What I'm trying to say is consider the different range driving activities you want to do and spec a 620 to fit. There are many references to the 620R's 'hard' track focussed suspension when used on normal roads also the sequential gearbox.

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Bloody hell Mark what a terrible decision to have to make , my five Penath  for what it’s worth is , every body seems to think there is no speed limit here and we can drive like loons ,,they forget the bad drivers here plus country lanes full of tractors and the like ,,if you can afford to keep two cars great ,, but not sure what the depreciation is on the exige   , think I would sell both get a 620 s , personally I would go for an SV ,suppose depends what the main use is to be , you can always sell it later ,it then gets it out of your system ,which to me is great especially if you can afford it now ,cos you don’t no what happens later in life ,, so enjoy when you can ,

bloody hell im getting all. Sensible in my old age.   ,,will have to stop it 

good luck 

derek

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it might seem crazy, but I'm spending 1500 quid a year for something I don't use.  I also wrap the Exige up in cotton wool, it's a proper garage queen.  The 7 is actually used, everytime I can get out, so long as its dry.  I love driving it in the dark too.

Derek have you not spotted just how many times I've been over Ballaugh bridge !! Byebye

Well I've had a interesting conversation with Oakmere, we are pretty close, but stocking the 7 is an issue for them.  If I could move the 7 independently then I might have deal.

Still looking to upgrade, 420R and Exige are still for sale, pls PM me

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