2004Academy80 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Ladies & GentlemenI am organising a group buy for a K-Series Powerspeed 4-2-1 complete system. I've wanted one for a couple of years now and as they never really come up for sale I've decided to bite the bullet and get one made.I’ve spoken with Lee & Andy and have the follow confirmed details.We need 4 of us, so 3 more to get a 10% discount.Full 4 2 1 System without CAT = £1500 inc VAT (Discounted price £1350)Full 4 2 1 System with integrated CAT = £1680 inc VAT (Discounted price £1512)Fully polished = £200 +VATFree delivery or Fitting @ £200 +VATThe non polished finish was described to me a being Scotch-brite "Matte", so you'll see the colouring of the metal where welded. I've not got a picture to show this but they said it had a race finish and does look nice.Payment or a deposit required from all of us before the first system will be shipped or fitted. They have been let down in the past. Please only commit below if you are genuinely interested. Obviously 4 is the minimum - more welcome.Once we have a full list I’ll DM you all so we can agree a deadline to make the payment/deposit.So who’s with me for a full system? 1. (Me) 2004Academy80 - Full 4 2 1 System + CAT + Polish + Fitting. (£1,992)2. RussellS - Full 4 2 1 System without CAT + Fitting.3. +1 will confirm end of Sept.4. Chris whitlow Full 4 2 1 System with integrated CAT = £1680 inc VAT (Discounted price £1512)Highside43 - able to purchase at end of year.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Some pics of the polished system to wet your appetite.https://fastroadconversions.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/img_0884.jpghttps://fastroadconversions.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/img_0879.jpghttps://fastroadconversions.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/img_0881.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 BTTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 The sun is out and I would like to improve the mid range torque.Is anyone else at all interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 Anyone at all interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellS Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I'm interested - Full 4 2 1 System without CAT + fittingDo you need any other details?Thanks Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Hi RussellI don’t think so at this point. Just need 4 names to commit. We can then give our order specifics to powerspeed and make payment. I’ll add you to the list. Thanks Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 One more person required!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 Michael had to pull out, so now 2 more people required.Obviously a popular thread with 760 reads, can't believe it such a struggle to get 4 people interested/confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Amazing - we now have 4 people on the list. Just need number 3 to confirm end of Sept.One extra to follow at the end of year to also benefit from the GB. Will keep you posted at beginning of Oct. Cheers chapsAlex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Have you considered asking Mike Edwards for a price / MOQ....?I think you will be suprised, they quality will be an improvement too, especially in the crucial area of the collectors, the powerspeed ones are not the best design.Exquiste fully purged TIG welding too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7oaks Mike Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Seems very expensive to me (even with the discount) for what is essentially a very small system. I’ve had full stainless exhausts (with some stunning manifolds) made before for much less. I’m new to caterhams and I’m Not meaning any offence, just genuinely curious as to why it’s priced as it is. Captive audience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 Hi MikeI'm just a customer with no commercial ties to Powerspeed, although expensive I think you get what you pay for.DVA (well known and respected tuner) recommend Powerspeed and another one or two manufacturers. Yes there will be others but I'm happy to go with a tried and tested formula. Powerspeed are my favorite of what is available.If you have a look at CC site vs Powerspeed the later is cheaper for what you get on a like for like basis.Residual value is also something to consider, if and when I come to sell my car, having a Powerspeed system over another "brand" not synonymous with Caterham's in my opinion will not be as easy to sell.Happy motoring.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7oaks Mike Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 No worries Alex was just wondering. I’ve heard the 4-2-1 are a must if upgrading to more power (i’ve Been reading through the DVA site myself) I was just surprised at the price for the system compared to my previous cars. They do look nice in the pics though, especially over the one I currently have. Maybe one day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 Yeah I know, it’s taken me a while to bite the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I would suggest you look elsewhere before parting with your dosh, there are much better alternative, as I mentioned before the Powerspeed collectors are not a good design at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 Do you have Computational fluid dynamic analysis you could share to show why one is better than the other? or back to back ME vs powerspeed rolling road data?This thread is a group buy for the subject system. Your additions are a little off topic and negative.To date I’ve not seen a single picture of a Caterham with a Michael Edwards system. Their Facebook has some nice pictures though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 no..... do you...?Though having seen plenty of systems over the years I can tell a good well made system from a poor one.Merely pointing out another option which you might not have been aware of There are several photos of Caterhams on Mikes site, he makes a lot of systems for the race guys, several members including myself have his systems too.Good luck with the BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 I’m organising a groupbuy for a powerspeed system, not asking for opinion or alternatives.No of course I don’t but I’m not saying one is better than the other or making defamatory statements of the other.I’m sure ME systems are as you describe, exquisite, and as their site is currently under construction I’m not able to see the Caterham examples you refer to, but the google images I’ve just searched are race car oriented with bonnet cut outs which isn’t an option for me as I’m not looking to re-skin but obviously have a more direct flow path, which might be why you say “their collector isn’t a good design”.I’m an automotive design engineer with 20 years experience I’ve worked with both hot and cold end exhaust engineers many of which are petrol heads like us so have discussed this in great depth.I've done my research, the PS system will improve airflow, reduces dB levels and meets my form and function requirements, not to mention they’re also recommended by one of, if not the most respected k-series tuners. That’s not to say if DVA were to update their website ME wouldn’t be there also!I wish you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Nick Bassett Posted September 20, 2018 Area Representative Share Posted September 20, 2018 I have a Powerspeed Exhaust on my SLR - looks and sounds great, so a big from me.I had my car noise tested for the first time a couple of weeks ago and it came out at 90dBs at 4500 RPM which I thought was rather good, given the reputation SLRs have for making noise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mason Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Ditto for look and sound of a Powerspeed system on a K. Make sure you read the instructions and do step 1 which apparently (I haven't seen them but know what happens if it isn't done......) and remove your alternator and turn the back of it through c. 180 degrees so the plug attaches in the 7 o'clock postion as opposed to the 1 o'clock they are usually (so it's in front of the engine mount) otherwise you'll have bother....... Drop me a PM if needed and I can send pics of how it should look once done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jointcbvirginmedia.com Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hi I'm a newbie,Got my Caterham 7 1.4 K in May 2018 only 2k on the clockJust had the wheels converted from 14" to 13" by Nick PotterGot the Caterham booked in with Dave Andrews in October to have the K01 kit fittedWhich should give an extra 8-10 BHPDave, did say that a a decent 4-2-1 would give and improvement.And the system below ticks all the boxes whats the drop dead date for the group buy ?And whats your opinion on on having or not having a CAT fitted.Full 4 2 1 System with integrated CAT = £1680 inc VAT (Discounted price £1512)Fully polished = £200 Plus VATFitting =£200 Plus VATBest regardsJon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hi JonCongrats on your purchase and getting booked in with Dave. Exactly what I did, you’ll not be disappointed.I’ll ask about other people adding to the group buy as the minimum 4 is met, I don’t see why not! I’m having a cat integrated. I personally don’t want the faff come MOT time. Will let you know when I have more detail thanksAlex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 I've sent a DM to all those confirmed with next steps. If you could let me know when read and complete it would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004Academy80 Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 Invoices are being sent out this week.I've paid mine, looking forward to setting a date for fitting.Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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