84 Live Axle - Engine Removal - Engine on its own? Now with Pics

[Tazio]

Sorry for more queries re my little project.  As part of the recommissioning of the car i will most probably have the engine out.  Looking at it in situ, it's very tight at the front with the bottom pulley close up to a chassis rail.  The question is , what is the best way to remove the engine, on it's own?, if so can you really split the engine and box with the front pulley so close to the chassis tube that runs across the front of the engine?, or is it engine and box out together?

Appreciate your thoughts.

Alan

[7 wonders of the world]

Yes,

You can jack the gearbox and lift the front of the engine so it clears the rails, 

[OldAndrewE]

Alan, I presume it is a Xflow engine.  If it is a 2000E gearbox then certainly the box and engine need to come out together.  I guess the Escort Sport box is the same but have no experience of it.

[OldAndrewE]

7WOTW posted while I was writing my reply.  Not sure about that method - never tried it

[Wrightpayne]

Neil,

The water pump and crank pulley's extend beyond the upper transverse chassis tube, which is 1 inch diameter, and seems further back in the chassis. If you look from above the pulleys are forward of the tube. I think removing the bolts from the water pump pulley and removing it will gain a bit but not convinced it will pass. Or even unbolting the pump. There is no engine bay diagonal on the passenger side and no cruciform like the later chassis's.

Tazio and I have done many (different) engine removals and refits in sevens but this has us stumped!

Ian

[elie boone]

AFAIK on a live axle the engine and gearbox have to come out together.

[Olgawld]

I recently took my xflow out my live axle 7. It is tight but comes out fairly easy, without gearbox. You can detach water pump and other bits to make it easier but I didn't, think I did remove alternator and started motor though.

[Tazio]

Thanks everyone, some conflicting ideas, we'll have to see how we go on the day..

[Tazio]

To my eyes, there is much less space to work in than the later chassis with the front cruciform

[Sooty]

Alan, its tight, especially if youve got electrics/ relays fixed to the nearest chassis rails. Mine came out, separated from the gearbox which needs supporting, easily with the alternator and water pump removed. When reinstalling I fitted a slightly smaller billett crank pulley which created a bit more room without adversely impacting on alternator output even with slower revs 

[Golf Juliet Tango]

Alan, rather than a jack under the gearbox, a ratchet strap to hold it in place means it is held to the car so you can move the chassis if needs be.