Is Apollo tank a minimum requirement for track/sprints?

[AndrewE]

Hi I am planning to do a few track days and sprints in my 1.6K Supersport. Currently wet-sumped.

Without going full dry sump is an Apollo tank good enough ?

[JonL]

I have a 1.6k with a wet sump and apollo and i've not had a problem on trackdays. 

 

[paul richards]

OK provided you don't have massive power and massive cornering speeds using slicks etc. A 1.6 k on road tyres will be fine with an apollo tank.

[AndrewE]

Thanks for quick responses Jon and Paul. Mind at rest and will go for Apollo 

I gather hose routing is fun

 

[John Vine]

I gather hose routing is fun

Hints, tips and photos here and here.

JV

 

[Roadsport06]

I'm on track today and I see a pressure drop on one corner. I have an Apollo on a k series and running R888R. I understand the electrical pressure gauge is heavily damped so you don't see any drop off on some corners. My mechanical gauge is quick to react to changes.

[AndrewE]

Interesting as I'm planning to go R888Rs 

Was it a significant drop and a particularly long corner?

 

[StevehS3]

I have always thought the standard gauge isn’t heavily damped as the needle can move fairly quickly e.g. when setting off from from idle.

Andrew: note the fitting is different for the later metric chassis just in case that what you happen to have.

[Roadsport06]

The corner isn't particularly long, it is the issue with the shallow sump. The pressure briefly dropped to about 35psi so the Apollo being a reservoir of extra oil and separating the air from the oil is great.

The mechanical gauge is very sensitive when compared to the electrical I had, but I have the mechanical because after having two senders in the first couple of years I realised mechanical would not be much more than a couple of senders

 

[rj]

To get the thread back on track (pun intended): If your tappets bocome just the least noisy it's probably because you're loosing oil pressure.

I don't know which tyres you're using, but I see 1.5-1.6G on ZZS' 

Her the wet sump just does it - as in /just/ 

I would say that an apollo tank is an absolute minimum and that you must keep the oil level at maximum all the time.

[AndrewE]

Stephen, I have an imperial chassis. 

I will be back for more info as I am building up a kit of parts as I want to include the non return valve on the top vent hose to cam cover

I have asked in a separate thread but does anyone have a template for the bottom mount bracket?

[Ivaan]

I would say you need an Apollo even if just for road use. I wiped the bearings on my old K series ( wet sump, no apollo ) on R888s just driving enthusiastically around the local roundabouts. I had to strip and re-build the engine and install apollo. Afterwards no problems even doing the sprint series. 

[StevehS3]

I might have a new bracket. I’ll check later.

[AndrewE]

Cheers Stephen!

[StevehS3]

Is this it?

[AndrewE]

Yep, I'll PM you Stephen

 

[Russ P]

Hi All,

 I have a Ford 1600 x flow, wet sump.  

  Where do I get an Apollo tank,  and would it be straightforward to fit by my local garage engineer?     'scuse my ignorance.

Russ P

[John Vine]

I've little knowledge of the XF, but AFAIK the Apollo was designed for the K alone as a way to mitigate the problems associated with the very shallow sump.  I don't know whether or not it would work on an XF, but I'm not sure it would even be needed?

JV