Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 24, 2018 Support Team Share Posted September 24, 2018 When Andy at PGM was corner weighting my car, he noticed some grease on the side of the diff which looked like it was coming from the drive shaft "cup". I removed the drive shaft on Saturday and it was obvious where the grease was coming from: So a few questions:Is it easy enough to replace the "cup"? Does anyone have the part number and a good source?Any thoughts on how this occurred and how to prevent it happening again? It looks like it's been rubbing on the diff housing and has worn through.Thanks, Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whitley Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 It looks to me that someone has already replaced it once. It wasn't a particularly difficult job when I did some years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 24, 2018 Author Support Team Share Posted September 24, 2018 Is this the right replacement part?https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/spidan-7118105.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 There is a big O ring inside which makes the seal.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Lowe Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Ford part number 1058427 I have a spare kit here in Camberley if you need one in a hurry Shaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 25, 2018 Author Support Team Share Posted September 25, 2018 Thanks Guy. Does that have the metal cup/can as well as the gaiter/bellows? I can't find anywhere on line that has stock of that part number so wouldn't want to leave you without your spare.I found part number 6127557 which appears to include the cup/can but has slightly different dimensions for the gaiter (1mm longer and, probably more importantly, 1mm smaller diameter around the driveshaft (21mm vs 22mm). I'm sure it could be made to fit but I'm concerned that it would eventually fail again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Shaun,the larger end of the boot actually fits on a rolled edge of the can so if brought as a kit shouldnt matter.I have a spare one - I bought 4 kits when they were available but you only need to cut off one can per drive shaft to change both boots. 1 peening activity didn’t go well hence I only have one spare! I have a spare O ring if you want me to measure it.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 This place purports to have them in Staffordshire..... https://www.allcarpartsfast.co.uk/ford/ford-1058427-kit-boot/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 On a mission today - just emailed GKN in Redditch to see if there is an alternate available!Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Bingo - Autodoc in Germany seem to have stock. I've used them for Porsche parts and they take about a week to arrive. For suspension top mounts for the 996 I paid a quarter of the OEM price for parts with the Porsche ref number ground off!https://www.autodoc.co.uk/spidan/7118105Do your due diligence to ensure they are the right ones & everything in the picture is included. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Lowe Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 This is the kit I have Shaun/sites/default/files/images/users/3816/Boot.jpeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I might order a couple of Spidan ones to see what they are like as the UK supplies seem to have dried up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 25, 2018 Author Support Team Share Posted September 25, 2018 OK - I've ordered one from Autodoc. Thanks for the tip Ian.Guy - that's the one. I'm not in a desperate hurry so I'll wait and see what I get from Germany! Thanks for the offer though.Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Parts where the number is grind off could possibly come from a stole car. I know of a racing team that was under serious suspicion of using stolen car parts but as the numbers where grind off " to save weight" it was never proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Slotter Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Part numbers being ground off is also pretty common for "pattern" parts that are actually made in the same factory on the same production line as the OEM parts but the OEM doesn't know/care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Elie,they were new boxed parts so I doubt this very much. Its quite common for OEM manufacturers to sell parts with identification codes removed to avoid the porsche tax!!Just wish some of the caterham suppliers would do this :-0Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted October 4, 2018 Author Support Team Share Posted October 4, 2018 So my repair kit arrived and it looks very much like the one in Guy's picture. The dimensions of the "can" seem right - diameter and length identical. The rubber bellows measure up to the advertised dimensions but there is one issue - the driveshaft is 32mm in diameter and the smaller end of the bellows is 22mm - is this correct? I hadn't even thought to measure the driveshaft! Looks like the bellows will stretch enough to fit but I'd like to know this is normal.I guess replacement steps are:Remove the metal tie wrapsRemove old bellowsat this point it looks like the drive shaft will separate at the point hidden by the bellowslever away/remove the "lip" on the old can at the larger endslide old can offslide new can on"peen" the can to form a new lip slide new bellows onto driveshaftrejoin driveshaftFit new tie wrapsI can see there are new O rings in the kit and I guess it's reasonably obvious where these go and at what point to fit them but any tips gratefully received. At which stage should the new grease be added?Finally, what is the best way to peen the new lip on the can?Thanks, Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Lowe Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Good morning Shaun, I have just measured my bellows and it's 22mm on the shaft end so I guess that's correct as I have fitted one without any problems.The peening is just a matter of lots of tapping round and round with a small hammer, two things to be careful off.1. Keep the joint fully compressed ALL OF TIME whilst peening, this is difficult, I held it in a large vice.2. Protect the shaft from wayward hammer blows which will cause damage, I held a small piece of 3/5mm steel against the shaft as protection.I hope this all makes sense, i am not known for my grammar Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted October 4, 2018 Author Support Team Share Posted October 4, 2018 Thanks Guy - grammar not important to me but good advice is :-)I'll have a go at it this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I recall someone saying you need to be an octopus to hold everything and hammer (Dave J I think!)I did mine like Guy, clamped up, but if doing again I'd recruit an assistant!IanPS - you only need to remove 1 CV to change both boots - is it worth doing the other end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted October 4, 2018 Author Support Team Share Posted October 4, 2018 I think it's been done at some point but I'll check the bellows carefully before I start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Boing for those about to refresh their drive shafts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Is there a guide somewhere for this job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Lowe Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I referenced the Haynes Sierra manual, bit basic but if you message me your email I could scan the relevant pages. Word of warning, it's not that easy as stated above. Best to use a puller to pull on and swage the new cans and you have to be very accurate when you swage. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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