andydavy Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Currently have 7" but about to fit lowering brackets so might as well think about going 5 3/4 led units.I know lots has been said before but whats the very latest recommendation.Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_mad Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 For comparison, main and dipped (I use dipped as running lights). Bought from Just Add Lightness. I'm very happy with them and would recommend these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K7 VCT Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Save a stack of cash, try classiccarleds.co.uk I've had H4 LED bulbs for 3 years and very happy in standard. 5 3/4 headlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I've just ordered a pair of Dave Gemzoe's LED h/l bulbs on the recommendation of a fellow member (discussion here).I can't comment on results yet as I won't be fitting them for a few weeks, but I'll report back when I have.JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted February 8, 2020 Member Share Posted February 8, 2020 That would be very helpful, John. Please:Cost.Fitting notes.Illumination: preferably comparison shots down the road with the same exposure, on the door ditto, and subjective.Opinion on legality.Email sent....I know lots has been said before but whats the very latest recommendation.There isn't one: the information is too scattered. And TTBOMK no-one has done a back-to-back comparison of current alternatives. In the absence of a wiki it would be great if someone could write a summary of what's already in the archives.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Re #5:Cost (per pair): £35.00 + P&P. The other items will have to wait a while!JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_mad Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Mine have an E mark and I'm outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I have theseThey have a halo ring that I've used for side lights, then dipped and main beam.If you want more info I'll dig it out, think they are actually for a Harley Davidsion but are E marked and work really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David aka Blue7 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I am just about to fit JAL leds to some new carbon headlight bowls that I have purchased from Daviid Lale of Classic Carbon. I should have fitted them a few weeks ago but the bowls had to be returned for a modification. I have the garage wall marked to indicate where dipped and main beam project with the existing lights. I did have the leds fitted temporarily prior to the bowls being returned and the pattern is really quite different, dipped is very wide ... and exceptionally bright. I will maybe fit one and take a photo of the two together for comparison purposes.. With the JAL lights, the sidelight is in the form of a horizontal running light across the centre of the lens. There are cheaper options available (probably Chinese), but JAL are assured quality IMO.On the subject of lower headlights, my first 2008 CSR had the standard 7" and my wife and I always thought the nearside light often obscured a lot of vision. What a great improvement to vision when I bought the 2011 CSR with the lower 5.75" headlights, much improved vision.David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 many new style car lights are 'flat dip' ie they have no kick up to the left, much like motorbike lights thus enabling manufactures to use the same lights be the car left or right hand drive.no issue driving abroad either My LED headlights are the samehttps://furoreproducts.co.uk/headlight-3850-lumen-pairand 1/3 of the price of the ones mentioned in #9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 ....and you can buy a pair of black 5 3/4 headlamp bowls, bezels and hollow bolts form SVC for £80, you need to ring up and speak to the guy there who's name escapes me as ISTR they were not listed on the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted February 8, 2020 Member Share Posted February 8, 2020 All costs, details, sources and beam pattterns appreciated.ThanksJonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Link to Amazonhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07G972T2M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted February 9, 2020 Member Share Posted February 9, 2020 many new style car lights are 'flat dip' ie they have no kick up to the left, much like motorbike lights thus enabling manufactures to use the same lights be the car left or right hand drive.The current MOT Inspection Manual has two different sets of criteria: "British American type" and "European type". I haven't heard of any problems with testing. (But the wording is tortuous.)Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 no problem at all for the MOT with flat dip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garf Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just for Jonathan (and of course others who are interested...) below are some amateur pics of the Dave Gemzoe LED's per John's post #4.It wasn't dark at the time nor a scientific test but more of an "alignment aid" process - however you can see how brighter they are and how well they cut-off on dipped beam (similar pattern to the original H4 bulbs) to avoid glare to on-coming vehicles. At night they are much more impressive Dipped beam:Main beam:Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Re #16:That's encouraging! Did you have to adjust the bulb alignment at all?JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garf Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 John - no adjustment at all but that was why i put the tape on the sheet to check the alignment when fitting .... just "plug & play"Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Thanks for that, Neil. I'll see what happens when I fit my own Gemzoe bulbs in a few weeks.JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Garf - out of interest what size headlights and what type of lenses are you using?RegardsIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garf Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Ian - 7" with the original reflectors and lenses from 1995 (with a quick polish inside).I should add that the non-LED was also a Phillip's Extreme 140% bulb ....so even more impressive! You can actually rotate the LED bulb in its plastic holder (which itself slots perfectly into the reflector housing) in case you need to adjust get the horizontal alignment (there are placement notches as you rotate but I didn't need to).Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted February 13, 2020 Member Share Posted February 13, 2020 Thanks for the photos. JonathanPS: TTBOMK Dave Gemzoe's are £35/ pair and E marked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 But again that will not make the headlight E marked....They were Designed for a H4 (Halogen ) bulb and thats what the E marking relates too, when you change the light source this no longer applies and therefore using LED bulbs in a headlight designed for a H4 bulb no longer meets the regs for on road use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 ... using LED bulbs in a headlight designed for a H4 bulb no longer meets the regs for on road use. That's interesting. Is that because the lighting regs were drawn up (1989?) before LED lighting existed? And if the LED bulb is designed to produce the same beam pattern and cut-offs as the filament bulb (which I believe the Gemzoe bulb is), does the problem become more of a "technical" breach?What are the downsides in practice? Insurance? Plod? MOT? Roadside checks?JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted February 14, 2020 Member Share Posted February 14, 2020 What are the downsides in practice? Insurance? Plod? MOT? Roadside checks?I wouldn't expect problems at MoT testing with LEDs per se if the illumination looks right to the tester because:They don't fall foul fall of the inspection processes and rules.We haven't heard of any so far.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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