Shad Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I spoke to John at Performance Braking on Monday and took his advice and went for a set of Pagid RS15 front pads and RS14 rear pads, to replace my standard pads all round (normal rear calipers, AP fronts). I cringed at the cost but needed a solution to the fairly dire track performance of the standard setup. Anyway, after a few evenings of fiddling I've just been out for the bed-in and testing... OH MY GOD Simply astonishing braking power. Much easier to lock up now but all part of the learning curve. Had a few times where I got it just right and it felt like my face was coming off. Very very very very impressed, despite the cost!! I seem to have a very large amount of dust on the front wheels though... normal for these pads? Huge thumbs up, cannot recommend these pads and Performance Braking enough 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I use the same combination on my R500 and balance is excellent with superb bite from cold and with no fade. They may cost more but the bouns is they last forever I think the brakes are just as important as an extra few bhp but owners seem more inclined to invest in power upgrades and seem reluctant to invest in the best brake pads Mark D Comp Sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason liddell Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I followed the same advice from John 3 yrs back... ...after I got over the cost and the tedious task of emery-ing the discs , I love them (Mainly ) Scottish Motorsport/Trackday Pics Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casbar Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 same 3 years ago, still brill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Deslandes Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 One thing to be wary of, as I've recently discovered, is don't let the pads rust onto the disks. I don't know whether the Pagids are more susceptible than other types but my car had gathered dust in the garage over the winter so I washed it and dried off the body but, being cold, the brakes remained wet. Over a period of no more than a couple of weeks, the front pads rusted onto the disks. Expecting them to free themselves in the normal way and with the car jacked up, I gave the wheels a yank. Where the pads had rusted to the disk, the pad surface has torn quite badly and had to be scraped off the disk. I've yet to inspect the pads fully to see whether they need to be replaced. If they do, it'll be an expensive lesson. Edited by - Paul Deslandes on 7 Mar 2008 09:04:15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casbar Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Thats ok I never wash my car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 Duely noted I tend to sponge off the bodywork and take the wheels off to clean them, and while they're off clean the calipers and hubs with brake cleaner rather than water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAP Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Do the discs need regular sanding? My Pagids were fantastic when first fitted, but don't seem as good now - it might be that I've just got used to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Have been using RS14 Pagids for years and they are great and do last a very long time BUT I did have one prob. The left front brake disc cracked at Magny Cours GP circuit (alot of braking on this circuit). It was a full thickness crack but disc stayed intact. Touch wood, I've stayed with RS14's and had no recurrence of this for about 4 years. On my third set now. Maybe the disc was faulty, but worth having a look at them every now and then. VDU 7X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 OAP: Maybe the pads have become glazed? Wouldn't hurt to emery the discs and pads and bed them in again perhaps. Talking of cracks, I noticed a few in the standard Lucas pads that I removed from my rear calipers. Not sure how they'd have coped towards the end of their lifespan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddy Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Shad, (and others!)... do the Pagids squeal, or are they quiet? Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Mine are quiet Mark D Comp Sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 I have had a bit of squeal from mine today at low speed, not bothered by it really, all the best cars have brakes that squeal (i.e. rally cars) In any case it's not very significant yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 they appear to squeal if you dont use them hard enough , often enough. here is C7 TOP Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 they appear to squeal if you dont use them hard enough, often enough. So that's why mine are quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 here is C7 TOP Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S. Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Do they alter the front/rear balance over the standard set up? Class 4 Zetec ....nearly there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 8, 2008 Author Share Posted March 8, 2008 Does anyone find their RS15s generate a lot of brake dust?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boylston Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I'm interested in more details about how long they last - number of track days, etc. My R400 EATS rear pads. They only last 2 track days before being near the metal. As you can guess, it's getting boring ordering them in bulk and changing them. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F355GTS Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Simon My RS15 uprated rears have lasted about 40 trackdays Simon (Shad) no more than usual, Ferodo DS3000's were much worse in my experience Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boylston Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Hi Mark, 40!!!! My god - changing over will save me some dosh, loads of time and at the same time provide better performance - a no brainer.... Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I found the rs15 front & rs14 rear over braked the rear. Now back to standard cc rear pads. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regroo Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 How is the cold performance of the Pagids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I have heard from experienced owners that the 15's are too hard for the fronts and we caterhams dont get enough heat in them in general track and road use. I had 14's on front and blues on rear - that was a nice combo. But not as good as my present ferrodo fronts Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Dave J 'scuse the ignorance ... but "blues"?? are they the standard caterham pads? and was that with standard rear calipers and 'big' front brakes? and which ferrodo & how are they better? Ta, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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