Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted September 5, 2021 Area Representative Share Posted September 5, 2021 Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadsport06 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Tiger Seal is good stuff, that is what I did mine with years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted September 5, 2021 Leadership Team Share Posted September 5, 2021 221 always works for me Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CtrMint Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 In my kit CC sent TEROSON MS9220, the wings are still on nice and strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR400D Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 I'm sure CC will send whatever they get the best deal on, Mark. Having said that, that's an improvement! I had to buy my own for my build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 5, 2021 Member Share Posted September 5, 2021 There are probably more recommendations in the archives for Sikaflex 221 and Tiger Seal than for anything else. But here's one for 291.I'm not aware of a comparative trial.And I suspect that the preparation of the stay and wing and the way that the stuff is applied may be more important than the precise properties of the adhesive. After losing two wings I now make a sausage roll rather than a sandwich.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benton Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Loctite Teroson MS 9220 Only £29.11 at Amazon,..... Caterham £40.88!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted September 5, 2021 Author Area Representative Share Posted September 5, 2021 Thank you all. First job is getting all the old stuff off.I was lucky that it came off when I was doing just 60 & the road was quiet enough to walk back and pick the wing up. Paint damage only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CtrMint Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Either way, wings are still going strong at 4500+ miles, better than the rad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colindavies56 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Fix 4 fixings to the wing then thread a good zip tie through the fixing and around the wing stay, any future maintenance just cut the ziptie, there is previous threads on this in the archives but i don't know how to link it up to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 5, 2021 Member Share Posted September 5, 2021 "... there is previous threads on this in the archives but i don't know how to link it up to this."Happy to help, but probably better if we practise in another thread.Where do you get stuck: finding the threads, finding their URLs, or creating links to them?JonathanBig Head fasteners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colindavies56 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 url,and creating the link. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 5, 2021 Member Share Posted September 5, 2021 Over here, please.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted September 5, 2021 Author Area Representative Share Posted September 5, 2021 I might take the bighead approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Geoff Brown Posted September 6, 2021 Area Representative Share Posted September 6, 2021 Tiger is a good alternative. But if you search sites such as Tool Station or Screwfix there is an abundance of adhesive sealants up to the job & the equal of Sikaflex.Preparation is the key to bonding. This may sound agricultural but the powder coated surface needs to be cross cut with the edge of a triangular file enough to form a gripping surface. Then a thorough de greasing before laying the adhesive. Use the adhesive straight out of the tube, no spout, to lay down a good bed. Lightly abrading the wing contact surface also helps. If you choose to use mechanical fittings then a bed of good quality (black) silicone will reduce vibration & subsequent cracking around the fasteners. The self adhesive foam strip that CC advocates will not last long when subjected to use on the road. Especially rain.Used Tiger on my cycle wings in early 2013. Still going strong 8 years & 21,000 miles later. That's done it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team andy_harries Posted September 6, 2021 Support Team Share Posted September 6, 2021 Previous owner had tried to use some bolts on one of my wings but they rusted and the wing fell off (after going over a curb at Stowe corner, luckily just before the pit entry), so used some Tiger Seal which seems to have held up very well for the last year or so. Still securely stuck down - its nasty stuff though, so wear gloves to apply it.However, the big head approach in the linked to threat looks great. Will be doing that next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterM Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I thought the bighead plus tie wraps option had been vetoed for IVA/MOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 6, 2021 Member Share Posted September 6, 2021 It's mentioned here in 2016.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 8, 2021 Member Share Posted September 8, 2021 "Preparation is the key to bonding. This may sound agricultural but the powder coated surface needs to be cross cut with the edge of a triangular file enough to form a gripping surface. Then a thorough de greasing before laying the adhesive. Use the adhesive straight out of the tube, no spout, to lay down a good bed. Lightly abrading the wing contact surface also helps."I agree that preparation is crucial (and appreciated the pun!).That sounds as if you use a sandwich of adhesive between the wing and the stay rather than a sausage roll around the stay. Is that right?ThanksJonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted September 8, 2021 Author Area Representative Share Posted September 8, 2021 It was the "sausage roll" approach which failed on my car Jonathan. It looks like the wing was in place and silicone applied around the stanchion.But whether a layer between wing and stanchion is sufficient, I don't know. (i.e. your "sandwich" style). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 8, 2021 Member Share Posted September 8, 2021 "It was the "sausage roll" approach which failed on my car It looks like the wing was in place and silicone applied around the stanchion."I can't make out from the photograph... what separated? Was the silicone only around the underside of the stay and then up to the wing, or all around the stay (a sausage roll)?And had the paint been removed from the stay?ThanksJonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Geoff Brown Posted September 8, 2021 Area Representative Share Posted September 8, 2021 JK - GJT When pressing the wing firmly on to the bead of adhesive there will be enough excess to produce a 'wrap round' of the stay.Wearing disposable gloves is a must! Copious amounts of spit on the first finger helps to create the 'wrap round'. Just do not touch with the lips !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 8, 2021 Member Share Posted September 8, 2021 ThanksJonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted September 8, 2021 Author Area Representative Share Posted September 8, 2021 JonathanThe paint was certainly removed but I could see rust, so I suspect there was an air gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 8, 2021 Member Share Posted September 8, 2021 ThanksJonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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