Steering Track Rod Ends

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Steering Track Rod Ends

Anyone bought these and if so are they any good? http://www.compbrake.com/product/caterham-suspensiontrack-rod-ends-pair-copy/  I assume they replace the Triumph ones here: https://caterhamparts.co.uk/racks/125-track-rod-end-single.html.  I don't want the wishbone ends just the track rod ends.

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Why would you want to replace the standard Triumph parts?

The standard ones do the job and are easily adjustable. I don't see any benefit from fitting these.

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But Richard they'll reduce weight ... in the wallet region anyway!

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From what I understand they don't have the same taper fit as the Triumph ones and are therefore not properly (and safely) located in the steering arms. They're just a parallel threaded section for the full length - I wouldn't use them.

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That's interesting regarding the threads, I take it you know this from experience?  Obviously deviating from a proven design is always a risk and I would want them to be as least as safe if not safer than the parts they would replace.  They are roughly double the price but would look sexier Yes

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Andrew ... they can't be taper thread ... or you wouldn't have much adjustment !! Parallel thread secured by a locknut.
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Not a tapered thread onto the track rods! Come on, I'm not that daft (yet)! I may still be talking crap, but ... The standard Triumph ones are a tapered cone fitting into the steering arms on the uprights rather than just parallel rod like a bolt. That's why they have to be pressed out. The nut on the threaded section at the end pulls the conical section hard into the taper in the upright meaning that it is very securely located with no play. That's why you need a ball joint separator to pop them out, they don't just come out like a bolt when you take the nut off. The angle of the taper on the rod end has to match the angle of the taper in the upright steering arm to locate them securely. Those ones I believe are just a threaded section straight through without the proper taper fitting.

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Agreed ... it's been a long drive today.
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Smile 

Without the positive location of the taper, you will get movement which risks eventually leading to a stress fracture.

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Just drill the arm on the upright, eventually use a sleeve, Bob's your uncle Wink

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Or just search for GSJ158 e.g. Get yourself a pair for £11.95 free postage on eBay https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F400912155927

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