Area Representative bluenose Posted June 13, 2018 Area Representative Share Posted June 13, 2018 Anyone bought these and if so are they any good? http://www.compbrake.com/product/caterham-suspensiontrack-rod-ends-pair-copy/ I assume they replace the Triumph ones here: https://caterhamparts.co.uk/racks/125-track-rod-end-single.html. I don't want the wishbone ends just the track rod ends.Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted June 13, 2018 Area Representative Share Posted June 13, 2018 Why would you want to replace the standard Triumph parts?The standard ones do the job and are easily adjustable. I don't see any benefit from fitting these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted June 13, 2018 Leadership Team Share Posted June 13, 2018 But Richard they'll reduce weight ... in the wallet region anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 From what I understand they don't have the same taper fit as the Triumph ones and are therefore not properly (and safely) located in the steering arms. They're just a parallel threaded section for the full length - I wouldn't use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative bluenose Posted June 13, 2018 Author Area Representative Share Posted June 13, 2018 That's interesting regarding the threads, I take it you know this from experience? Obviously deviating from a proven design is always a risk and I would want them to be as least as safe if not safer than the parts they would replace. They are roughly double the price but would look sexier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Andrew ... they can't be taper thread ... or you wouldn't have much adjustment !! Parallel thread secured by a locknut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Not a tapered thread onto the track rods! Come on, I'm not that daft (yet)! I may still be talking crap, but ... The standard Triumph ones are a tapered cone fitting into the steering arms on the uprights rather than just parallel rod like a bolt. That's why they have to be pressed out. The nut on the threaded section at the end pulls the conical section hard into the taper in the upright meaning that it is very securely located with no play. That's why you need a ball joint separator to pop them out, they don't just come out like a bolt when you take the nut off. The angle of the taper on the rod end has to match the angle of the taper in the upright steering arm to locate them securely. Those ones I believe are just a threaded section straight through without the proper taper fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Agreed ... it's been a long drive today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Without the positive location of the taper, you will get movement which risks eventually leading to a stress fracture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just drill the arm on the upright, eventually use a sleeve, Bob's your uncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Or just search for GSJ158 e.g. Get yourself a pair for £11.95 free postage on eBay https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F400912155927 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I fitted taper pins from CHV engineering then used Rose joints with spacers to eliminate bump steer I had to lower my rack to achieve this which of course not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted June 13, 2018 Area Representative Share Posted June 13, 2018 Bluenose,They may, in your opinion "look sexy", but, it's highly likely, they will rust, and look less "sexy".I'd want to check (well, I wouldn't, because I see no reason to fit them ), that they have enough movement to tolerate all possible likely situations. (I've seen a couple of sets of exposed spherical top wishbone replacement bearings, where the bearing ran out of travel before the suspension was at full droop, where the resultant failure could be quite catastrophic!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john milner Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 One thing to consider is what would an insurer say if a critical item that deviated from standard type were to fail and cause an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 If I recoil correctly the original ones were for display only. There was something odd in the disclaimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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