Yamaha R1 engine in a Caterham

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Violet Elizabeth
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Yamaha R1 engine in a Caterham
I know people have put these engines in other BEC's, but has anyone done it with a Caterham ? Seems like a great engine, the sidecar boys use them with good reliability.
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Awesome engine but I foresee packaging issues due to the 'on top of box' layout. Friend of mine built one into a Striker and it was a credit to him. It also made 150hp at the wheels! http://www.striker1.plus.com/ HTH Steve See My Caterham Fireblade Here.
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R1 engine is a little taller than some, would be difficult to get it in to a Cat without either dropping it low (sump issues) or cutting the bonnet (ruining the classic Seven line). It's tilt angle is quite crucial (carbs/oil) meaning there is not a lot of leaway on this. If it would go in, it would be a seriously light Caterham though. Rich Miles' site there is pretty much the bible for new R1 builders these days, can't start surfing at a better place ________________________________________________________ graeme finlayson / tyre warmer / fluke motorsport [email protected] / www.fluke-motorsport.co.uk Edited by - gee_fin on 5 Mar 2004 10:40:05
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I've been thinking along the same lines, Noger. But as has already been mentioned, it'll probably require the air filter stick through the top of the bonnet. Not much of a problem really; my 1600GT already has a K&N poking through Peardrop
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Dont forget the prop angles Loads of info at http://www.baileymorris.co.uk/ If it was me I'd go electric reverse also Good luck Steve See My Caterham Fireblade Here.
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Thanks Yes, looking at the engine in the Striker it did seem the the only way the air filter was going was up through the bonnet. Going to have to get my measuring tape out I think. Would be great if it did fit, with the change in regulations in the sidecars these engines are being used quite a lot, and seem to have quite a few parts available. Fairly cheap, no dry sump needed, decent power and not that much heavier than a 'blade engine. Hmmm, wonder if Arch would be able to modify the chassis ?
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In car's it's been in to date (striker/westfield) the prop angles have been some of the best out there, nigh on straight-through. The sidecar guys have had a change in regs meaning that a lot of their sooped-up R1 engines are now up for sale for reasonable money (as they now have to go to standard ones). Although not likely to be appearing in breakers for some time (and probably not likely to be cheap) the specs on the new 2004 R1 are pretty serious, a possible Busa challenger... ________________________________________________________ graeme finlayson / tyre warmer / fluke motorsport [email protected] / www.fluke-motorsport.co.uk
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"No dry sump needed" - what makes you say that?
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Engine doesn't need dry sumping. Been proven in sidecar racing for many years, those guys generate 2g+ which is more than you're ever going to get in a seven. All it needs is a cheap little baffle plate and then a few 100ml over-filling with oil. Rich has some oil pressure logs running on ACB10s to double check this. £80 for a baffle plate kinda beats £1,800 for a dry sump :) ________________________________________________________ graeme finlayson / tyre warmer / fluke motorsport [email protected] / www.fluke-motorsport.co.uk
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edited so as not to look like a complete ass... BB Edited by - Badger Bill on 5 Mar 2004 11:39:54
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OK sounds plausible, just wanted to make sure people weren't falling into the "doesn't have one in a bike - doesn't need one in a car" trap.